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KleShreen wrote:

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prepseer wrote:

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This entire post just solidifies why your rankings during the high school season are a joke.

Now, that's about the most ignorant post I've ever seen.

What part of the post don't you agree with? That a UM degree is better than one from Grand Valley or Saginaw Valley. Or, that the Pioneer QB wasn't that well known. Since no one in the world would agree with the former, I'm assuming you think I don't know what I'm talking about by not being current on the Pioneer QB. Please show me where this guy has ever been rated or received publicity other than in the Ann Arbor News. Sorry, if I can't see every team in the state. I'm comfortable with my rankings though. It doesn't bother me one bit that you don't agree.

As for RR's recruiting of walk-ons. I didn't mean to imply that he or any other coach didn't recruit walk-ons. I'm sure they do. But, I assume most of the recruited walk-ons are pretty good players in their own right and are probably scholarship candidates at lower level schools. What I was surprised about was the recruiting, if it really happened, of a virtual no-name player like the Pioneer QB.

Finally, one more dose of reality for KleShreen, there is a role for the Grand Valley's and Saginaw Valleys in the world of higher education. There are a lot of students who have academic trouble in high school and/or have limited budgets. They need an alternative between JUCO and mainstream 4-year universities. A lot of these students happen to be athletes who are not qualified to play at the Div. 1 level and are not ready to retire and enter the work force. Enter the Saginaw Valley's of the world.

My advice to any high school student would be to go to the best academic school possible. My advice to students entering high school is to work hard and get the best grades possible so you have the same choice that Nader Furrah had. Even if you have a scholarship to a GVSU or SV, or similar school, I'd opt for a UM, or even a MSU, if you can get in. If you're borderline academically, and can use the football (or other sport) program to get you into the school, it would be worth the investment to go that route. If you don't have the grades to get in, even with help from the coach, I'd still go to the next tier of schools (the WMU, CMU, EMU schools) before going the GV/SV/Northwood route. However, the difference between the schools is a lot less once you go to the MAC level schools, except perhaps Miami (OH). If you're an average high school football player and are not being recruited at one of the better academic schools, but have the grades to get in on your own, it's a no-brainer. Go the the best school possible--the UM's, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Iviies, or top-level Liberal Arts Colleges. Don't be swayed by the lower cost of the Ferris States or the Northwoods and others of that ilk. Most top schools have good financial aid programs and they will equalize the cost of your education with less costly schools. Basically, you will only pay what you can afford. You'll end up with some student loans, but $50,000 in student loans and a degree from UM is far preferable to no student loans and a degree from SVSU.

The big winner is Nader Furrah. Even if he never gets any scholarship money or playing time from UM, he will get the UM degree and that is far better than a free ride and degree from lesser-regarded institutions. Just ask any potential employer or Graduate School admissions officer about the value of a degree fom UM, Northwestern or Notre Dame vs one from Ferris State, Northwood or SVSU. I wish Furrah the best of luck, both on and off the field and congratulate him on his college decision..