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 LegendKiller |
Week 6 Results |
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Posts: 56 10/03/08 10:56 PM |
From MHSAA.com:
Cranbrook 21 U Prep 12 Clarenceville 48 Lutheran Westland 12 Lutheran North 35 Harper Woods 6 Lutheran Northwest 35 Hamtramck 7 |
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Posts: 10 10/03/08 11:19 PM |
Lutheran Northwest 35 Hamtramck 6 Matthew Rolf threw for 5 TD's to Jornel
Jones (3), Anthony Claxton (1), and Steven Miscovich (1) and Jordan Skinner ran the ball well as NW rolls into the playoffs against a better than normal
Hamtramck team.
Clarenceville 48 Lutheran Westland 12 Clarenceville led only 21-12 at the half but pulled away in the second half to ruin Westland's homecoming celebration. Lutheran North 35 Harper Woods 6 What happened? Was Hartfield injured? Cranbrook 21 Detroit University Prep 12 A close game, as expected
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Wolverado |
The view from afar... | #2 | ||
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Unranked Walkon 
Posts: 5 10/04/08 10:00 AM |
... Looks like 3 of 4 games held to form last night. Congrats to Lutheran High Northwest which sewed up a play-off spot in their win! Can the boys keep
their undefeated machine humming? 5 TD passes to 3 different receivers will force other teams to spread out their coverage and cause a few opponent's
knees to tremble. As far as I know, only Brett Farve had more TD passes this past week! Luther North showed some muscle (one week late for my upset special
to have been on the mark), against Harper Woods, showing that the young LN players could be putting it together now, and that the better record can be
deceiving. Also, Clarenceville seems to be getting tougher as the season goes on. UPrep and Cranbrook had fun in a close encounter, so there is that!
Overall, Metro football had another good weekend! Lotsa fun!
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PrimeTime01 |
week 6 results | #3 | ||
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Posts: 277 10/04/08 4:31 PM Varsity |
First of all - have the wheels come off at Harper? I mean North is a solid team but struggle to score and then go and drop 35 on Harper -- with only 100 yards
of total offense!
I heard Cribbs broke his foot and Hartfield got dinged up but what happened? * I just saw in Maxpreps a DB Sylvester from North had 11 sacks...? Is that correct? If so how many times did Harper try to throw and how is a DB getting do many sacks? That kid only averaged 4 tackles a game before this one. Wow this must of been a ugly game - for Harper! Ok second > I see Clarenceville has gone to the spread - ran it about %40 of the time vs Westland. Must of thought if Northwest can do it so can they. They had some nice runs with the QB out of it -- but most of the plays were still the jet sweep. Westland played a tough first half but still don't understand either why they go into the spread when they can't throw at all. They also gave up a safety and gave C'ville the ball on the 1 yard line. Ouch! Trust me > it was not a clinic on how to run the spread offense when these two teams came together. I think they should stick to their strengths and stop experimenting. -- Northwest came out flat for the Ham-Town homecoming game, but picked it up in the 2nd quarter. Hamtrack played tough the entire game and they had some really good linemen #66 Dewitt had a heck of a game and their RB's ran hard. Northwest ILB's dominated another game --both having double digit tackles. Rolf picked apart the secondary with 5 TD's. *This should make for an interesting match-up between Cranbrook and Harper next week. |
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YOU KNOW ME |
cvile or maybe it should be t(hug)ville | #4 | ||
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Unranked Walkon 
Posts: 11 10/04/08 6:08 PM |
I am a Warrior fan, yes cville was the better team, by far. Too many athletes for Westland to handle. However, word from the field was that cville put a hit
out for #47 from Westland and they we all over this kid on every play. On one play they threw him around like a rag doll and the only penalty was for the
initial block in the back. Cville has too much talent to play like a bunch of thungs, but they did. Am I the only one in the Metro to see it this way? Or is
this just sour grapes????
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Tr14 |
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Unranked Walkon 
Posts: 1 10/04/08 6:14 PM |
Congrats to NW on being the first metro team to qualify for the playoffs. Clarenceville looks to be the next one knocking on the door, with three games
remaining. It looked as though Harper Woods was on track as well, except with the result from last night it leaves to question whether something bad has gone
down, or if it was just an extreme off night for them. We can't forget that despite their youth north is and is always a well coached team, it's good
to see them get such a big win.
Primetime, Its understandable that experimenting midway through the season can show signs of distress, but is running your base offense as cville had from a new formation/look truly experimenting? I mean the jet sweep is the jet sweep whether its from under center or the gun. Westland, on the other hand just looked simply out of their element in the gun. What they do well is run dive extremely well, putting themselves back in the gun to allow Shoats room to do stuff just wasn't conducive to helping them succeed last night, and in some of their other games this season. When they experiment and try to throw they only hurt themselves. As expected Cranbrook beat Uprep, and well they may be set up to beat Harper Woods next week. Northwest obviously looked well against Hamtown last night, five pass td's is impressive. Who knows maybe Justice will be getting calls to speak at clinics in the off season on his spread offense... ...Eh, prolly not. But for now Rolf is getting the job done on the ground and in the air. |
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Posts: 278 10/04/08 6:26 PM Varsity |
Well if this was a Greg Hudkins coached team I would of said yes! But from what I have seen this year and past years Clarenceville doesn't play
"dirty" ball and have never put a hit out on anyone.
I think you are taking it out on the wrong team -- Westland gave up a few turnovers and gave C'ville the ball on the 1 yard line for easy scores. If you think Clarecnceville had too many athletes for Westland - what does Northwest have in-store for them then next week? *And to TR14 - C'ville Jet looked a lot better out of their normal formations - because with the inability to throw the ball people can still stack the box with defenders.
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Posts: 57 10/05/08 1:24 AM |
YOU KNOW ME wrote:sounds like sour grapes to me. I've seen MUCH MUCH worse than that. Westland's only scores were when C'Ville turned it over in their own territory. Other than that, Westland didn't put a solid drive together all game. It could be a long game next week against Northwest! |
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Unranked Walkon
Posts: 1 10/05/08 2:55 AM |
the cranbrook-uprep game wasnt as close as the score would indicate. prep's two scores came off mental errors by the defense: a 78 yard run off a fake that
all the backers bit on and an 86 yard pass where the safety cheated run and left the receiver all alone. prep couldnt move the ball consistently all game, and
their defense let themselves get run over. it could have been much, much uglier for prep.
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Posts: 16 10/05/08 4:55 PM |
well it wasn't and they almost scored in the last seconds.
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Unranked Walkon
Posts: 9 10/05/08 6:03 PM |
Gmoney, the Cranbrook game was probably as close as it looks, even if UPrep's scores were on mental errors. Isn't any score because of a defensive
mental error somewhere in the drive? Couldn't some of Cranbrook's points been off of mental errors?
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Posts: 18 10/05/08 6:17 PM |
thanks dutchman
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Unranked Walkon Hi! I'm New Here!
Posts: 2 10/05/08 8:47 PM |
Harper Woods shot themselves in the foot. Alot of turnovers. Opening kickoff ran back for TD by North to start game. Woods tried to throw too much. QB was
picked off at least 4 times with one of them ran back for a TD by a D-lineman. QB tried to throw it away instead of taking a sack. Fullback/Linebacker
suspended from school and his apsence showed. Cribs hurt in 1qtr but finished the game. North did not look impressive at all. They had negative total yards
going into the fourth. Most of yards run up against 2nd and 3rd team defense for Harper. Many of the sacks on QB came during 4th. Harper is a Jeckle and
Hyde team. No senior leadership at all. Miss alot of leadership from last years team. Score was 20-0 at half and 20-6 at the end of 3.
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Unranked Walkon
Posts: 21 10/06/08 1:45 PM |
I think North's defense was solid against HW and caused a bunch of turnovers. They held Hartfield to just a few yards and stuffed the HW running game
which forced them to throw.
Secondly, the way you guys all write NW originated the spread offense in the Metro........I think it is good that they finally figured out it would work for them, but when you are talking about the Metro didn't the coach from LN use the spread 6-7 years ago? Wasn't Clawson the second team to adopt the spread? Didn't Cranbrook start running it 3-4 years ago? Where has NW been the last 4-5 years? Where has the rest of the Metro been? So, Primetime one year of running the spread makes Justice worthy of speaking at clinics? Did he get his playbook from Clawson, North or from Cranbrook? Wasn't it you that accused the LN coach of just copying plays? So, where did NW get their plays from? Certainly they didn't "copy" from anybody...did they? Did Justice go to a clinic where Sparks, Fasholz or Gerson was speaking? Just giving you a bad time "Primetime"! Congrats to NW on their fine season and goodluck in the playoffs |
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Posts: 280 10/06/08 2:02 PM Varsity |
Ummm -- first of all Shark - I never said justice should give a clinic - that was someone else joking around. I also never said NW brought the spread to the
Metro.
The only thing I said was "Ok second > I see Clarenceville has gone to the spread - ran it about %40 of the time vs Westland. Must of thought if Northwest can do it so can they." So I am not sure what you are talking about? It sounds more like another case of sour grapes by getting spanked by a school half your size. I also think - that you kinda need a QB that can throw to run the spread effectively and neither C'Ville - Westland or North has that > so sorry, but it makes no sense to run a system that you don't have the talent for. North would of been better off switching to a system that utilizes their big linemen. So keep trying to make me look stupid - I enjoy it! 
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Unranked Walkon
Posts: 22 10/06/08 5:12 PM |
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Unranked Walkon
Posts: 23 10/06/08 5:34 PM |
You are right primetime it was Tr14 that made the comment about Justice. You did however accuse LN coach of stealing plays so you never did explain how NW
adopted the spread if they didn't as you put it "steal plays"?
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Unranked Walkon
Posts: 2 10/06/08 5:53 PM |
dutchman, thats a good point, but my main point was that their offense was very inconsistent and scored off luck more than skill, which doesnt win any team
very many ball games. if they had been regularly getting gains of 30, 40, and 50 yards, that would have been one thing, but the vast majority of their drives
ended in 3 and out or didnt last too much longer. on the other hand, brook's offense, especially the running game, was consistently getting gains of 5, 10
and 15 yards, but usually sputtered out when the offensive coordinator needlessly tried to mix things up. and highskool, even if they had scored in the final
seconds using that gimmick offense, they wouldnt have won. even with a touchdown and the 2 point conversion (which they were 0-2 on in that game), the score
would have been 21-20. i dont mean to offend anyone, im just calling it like i see it.
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Ref70 |
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Posts: 57 10/06/08 11:51 PM |
I believe the Spread offense is a concept not a play so I guess Northwest did "steal" that concept. And I think what Primetime was talking about was
like 2 years ago...when North would do trick plays or funky formation one or two games after they saw someone else use them. But like i said that was at least
two years ago.
I also believe that a coach should use his strengths and talents to get the most out of his players and get the best results. Sticking with a system just because it worked in the past doesn't make sense to me when you don't have the personnel to run it. A good coach adapts to change - not stays the course and let it ride. If I re-call the Northwest coach was a I-Pro coach who would run Iso's and Options. It obviously looked like he didn't have the personnel to run that and switched. *And Lutheran North should beat Northwest every year - they have over double the enrollment and two times the amount of players that come out on a yearly basis. And don't see any excuses for that not happening?
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Unranked Walkon
Posts: 24 10/07/08 7:31 AM |
Ref70
So a good coach is one who adapts....you are saying that Justice isn't a very good coach then? After all he didn't adapt very quickly if it took him this long to find the spread! Ref are you saying that the LN coach doesn't know what he has in the way personnel and talent and you do? He should change his offense because you think he should? And..if it is about adaptation isn't utilizing all the tools available true adaptation like as you call them "trick plays" if they work and can catch a defense off guard. I would figure that to be true adaptation. I'm curious how you would know that the coach from LN would see something and then use it "one or two games after they saw it" are you buddies with the coach at LN? Do you two hang together? How do you get such insights into North fb? By what you claim Ref, Hamtramck has 1000 kids if it is purely a numbers game then they should win the Metro every year not North. Cranbrook should always come in second and North maybe third. Didn't North only have like 27 players listed on their roster this year? It isn't about numbers it is and always will be about who has the studs, the players. This year NW has the players. Last year HW had the players. The year before that LN had the players. No excuses! Just facts! |
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Posts: 281 10/07/08 12:02 PM Varsity |
wow - this is getting good! I wonder if the Ref and Fasholtz hang out - they might go drinking after the games for all we know?
I don't really think you can count Hamtramck, they may only have 200 American citizens inside the building 
plus they only get out 18 -20 kids every year. |
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