Vote.... Musky/Davison

Re: Vote.... Musky/Davison

feeds@yuku.com (Oman0123) — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:08:32 GMT

Sorry Papa Searn...I think the choke argument is over now. We will behave now

Re: Vote.... Musky/Davison

feeds@yuku.com (pavlov) — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:24:12 GMT

Searn wrote:
This is as bad as when Gary Danielson used to be on 1270 am and argue with Eli and Kirk Gibson whether there was such thing as "Momentum" in sports.

Re: Vote.... Musky/Davison

feeds@yuku.com (Oman0123) — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:22:45 GMT

Putnam is one of the best coaches in the state in my humble opinion. He makes some bone-headed calls sometimes that gets criticized but what coach doesnt?. Im not exactly right but i believe it is 7 straight big 9 (6,5,4 <-- teams left in conference last couple years) titles. Hasnt lost a big 9 game since 2003 (25 game streak i think). all this with a handful of playoff caliber teams in the conference. Even a state champ in Powers a couple years ago. 4 Semi Final appearances since 02. He...

Re: Vote.... Musky/Davison

feeds@yuku.com (Searn) — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:19:33 GMT

This is as bad as when Gary Danielson used to be on 1270 am and argue with Eli and Kirk Gibson whether there was such thing as "Momentum" in sports.

Re: Vote.... Musky/Davison

feeds@yuku.com (pavlov) — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:06:45 GMT

elderly wrote:
Please! "Choke" means precisely what we see in the dictionary. To choke means we feel the tightening in the throat that manifests incipient panic and loss of poise. From my military days, I recall the term "pucker factor". Same principle. Your wimpified definition flies in the face of this world's realities.

Simmer down a smidge Elderly. No need to get angry or...

Re: Vote.... Musky/Davison

feeds@yuku.com (eagleCHAMP05) — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:20:44 GMT

Well, it could do one of two things for the program.

It could either light a fire under their butts and they can use it for extra motivation next time.

OR, it could completely destroy them.

Which one happens will be up to the coaching staff and the underclassmen.

Re: Vote.... Musky/Davison

feeds@yuku.com (Oman0123) — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:05:55 GMT

Nice write up eagleCHAMP. I guess we just see choking differently. But overall I completely agree with you and pavlov. Would meltdown have been a better word to use? lol This loss is gonna sting for a long long time for everybody in this community.

Re: Vote.... Musky/Davison

feeds@yuku.com (eagleCHAMP05) — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:33:11 GMT

So you dont think Davison started to panic when they saw Muskegon wasnt completely done yet?

I think you stand alone on the fact that you didnt find it impressive for Muskegon to pull a comeback of that magnitude. Just because you're "elderly" does NOT mean you're opinion is automatically the right one.

I agree with pavlov. They missed plenty of opportunities to put this game away and pull the biggest upset in a long, long time. Muskegon practically...

Re: Vote.... Musky/Davison

feeds@yuku.com (elderly) — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:12:05 GMT

Please! "Choke" means precisely what we see in the dictionary. To choke means we feel the tightening in the throat that manifests incipient panic and loss of poise. From my military days, I recall the term "pucker factor". Same principle. Your wimpified definition flies in the face of this world's realities.

Re: Vote.... Musky/Davison

feeds@yuku.com (pavlov) — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:20:21 GMT

Let's not misunderstand, choke doesn't mean lack of effort or poise. It's a series of missed executions or opportunities when most needed.

The fact remains, they had significant leads (22 points with 4 minutes to play, and a 16 pooint lead with 2 minutes) and couldn't seal the deal. They couldn't make a single play in those last 4 minutes. They just needed one play on a kickoff, or a defensive stop.

To ask the question differently: In terms of...

Re: Vote.... Musky/Davison

feeds@yuku.com (Oman0123) — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:52:22 GMT

I dont think saying that it was a choke job is criticizing them. They played their hearts out and was only 4 minutes away from pulling off a major upset. Im sure putnam was very proud of them. This wasnt even suppose to be a game. Everybody said, including myself, that this game was gonna be over by halftime. Unfortunately as i said before, they just werent ready to be at ford field, their eyes got huge at the sight of the 35-13 and they choked it away. I dont really know how this doesnt...

Re: Vote.... Musky/Davison

feeds@yuku.com (elderly) — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:48:06 GMT

It was more than called for! The Davison kids did a super job in my book! There should be no criticism of their effort. If I were their coach, all the buttons on my shirt would pop from pride in the effort they gave for their team and school.

By the way, these comments don't come from a +!#%*$% know-nothing amateur.

Re: Vote.... Musky/Davison

feeds@yuku.com (Oman0123) — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 12:58:53 GMT

I respect your guys' opinion. I just think up 35-13 (35-19 with a couple minutes left) and they score 25 unanswered points regardless of how good the team is. that can be considered a choke. Davison was not ready to be at just ford field yet. I think this game will be great for the future of the Davison football program. and For you not thinking much of me? I live in Davison. I graduated from Davison a couple years ago. I love this town and love the sports program. I think it is one...

Re: Vote.... Musky/Davison

feeds@yuku.com (Searn) — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:37:34 GMT

Muskegon certainly gift wrapped one .... and Davison even left some points on the board in the first half when they got inside the 15 yard line twice and didn't come away with any points when was 14-7.

Congrats to Muskegon. Sometimes it's just as impressive to see a team come back from adversity as it is to see them defeat someone 42-0.

Choke? I don't know.

Re: Vote.... Musky/Davison

feeds@yuku.com (elderly) — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:06:14 GMT

Having been at Spartan Stadium yesterday, I think your premise is idiotic!

The shame should be hung on Muskegon - - - hung heavily! Rated #1 in the state. Ranked nationally. Obviously superior. The game ought not
to have been decided by blind luck.

The Cardinals deserve credit for their performance. I have seen teams and individuals choke over many decades of watching high school athletics - - - even beyond the Michigan scene. The Davison kids did not choke.
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Re: Vote.... Musky/Davison

feeds@yuku.com (Oman0123) — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 21:56:56 GMT

correction Davison was up 35-13.

Vote.... Musky/Davison

feeds@yuku.com (Oman0123) — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:07:45 GMT