Just thinking, should a conference championship = an automatic playoff berth?

Just thinking, should a conference championship = an automatic playoff berth? http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/topic/5656/t/Just-thinking---conference-championship--automatic-playoff-b.html en-us Copyright 2006, Yuku feeds@yuku.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@yuku.com (WebMaster) Fri, 03 Oct 2008 00:54:31 GMT Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:33:39 GMT Yuku Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 Yuku http://static.yuku.com//feed/bypass/images/button-yuku.png http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/topic/5656/t/Just-thinking---conference-championship--automatic-playoff-b.html Yuku - free hosted forums and profiles 88 31 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Search Domain q http://yuku.com/search/direct/ <![CDATA[ Re: Just thinking, should a conference championship = an automatic playoff berth? ]]> http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/reply/25385/t/Just-thinking---conference-championship--automatic-playoff-b.html#reply-25385 feeds@yuku.com (jbuch) http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/sreply/25385 Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:33:39 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Just thinking, should a conference championship = an automatic playoff berth? ]]> http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/reply/25353/t/Just-thinking---conference-championship--automatic-playoff-b.html#reply-25353 feeds@yuku.com (CkiukCzlek) http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/sreply/25353 Sat, 11 Oct 2008 10:49:37 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Just thinking, should a conference championship = an automatic playoff berth? ]]> http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/reply/25274/t/Just-thinking---conference-championship--automatic-playoff-b.html#reply-25274 feeds@yuku.com (applefan84) http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/sreply/25274 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:59:51 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Just thinking, should a conference championship = an automatic playoff berth? ]]> http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/reply/25213/t/Just-thinking---conference-championship--automatic-playoff-b.html#reply-25213 Searn wrote:

I think the system is pretty good .... one thing I have never like ... and I'm not sure if it was brought up here.

Let's take a division like D3 that has both class A and class B schools.

Let's pretend there are 20 spots open, 5 for each class.

Team 1 is class A (D3 range 1,020 students) at 5-4 with a 55 CPA and has the 6th best CPA of any class A 5-4 team.... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (SnoozeToMe) http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/sreply/25213 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:35:02 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Just thinking, should a conference championship = an automatic playoff berth? ]]> http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/reply/25198/t/Just-thinking---conference-championship--automatic-playoff-b.html#reply-25198
Let's take a division like D3 that has both class A and class B schools.

Let's pretend there are 20 spots open, 5 for each class.

Team 1 is class A (D3 range 1,020 students) at 5-4 with a 55 CPA and has the 6th best CPA of any class A 5-4 team.
Team 2 is a class B (D3 range 1,010 students) at 5-4 with a 52 CPA and has the 5th best... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Searn) http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/sreply/25198 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 01:11:37 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Just thinking, should a conference championship = an automatic playoff berth? ]]> http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/reply/25194/t/Just-thinking---conference-championship--automatic-playoff-b.html#reply-25194 American Carol That's the movie that we went to see for $5 apiece at Great Lakes Crossing. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Mr NCAA) http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/sreply/25194 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:09:22 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Just thinking, should a conference championship = an automatic playoff berth? ]]> http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/reply/25192/t/Just-thinking---conference-championship--automatic-playoff-b.html#reply-25192 applefan84 wrote:

Mr NCAA wrote:
I know that it was gone. I thought that the response was appropriate though since it made my point really, really well.

I'm a little confused. My point was that a mediocre Class A team will always have a higher CPA than a mediocre Class C or D team, and so if the at-large berths are filled solely... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (AuldSchool) http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/sreply/25192 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:01:22 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Just thinking, should a conference championship = an automatic playoff berth? ]]> http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/reply/24945/t/Just-thinking---conference-championship--automatic-playoff-b.html#reply-24945 If they do that, then I'm for putting the higher "at large" teams by the CPA method as well as it is rotated from Class A - Class D Do you see that "-" in the quote? That reads as "through". What part of that don't you get? This is my last post on the subject since you are confused.

I'm about to take off to see one of the few movies that I attend in the theaters since I love the old ones a ton better. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Mr NCAA) http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/sreply/24945 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 12:50:15 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Just thinking, should a conference championship = an automatic playoff berth? ]]> http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/reply/24942/t/Just-thinking---conference-championship--automatic-playoff-b.html#reply-24942 Mr NCAA wrote:

I know that it was gone. I thought that the response was appropriate though since it made my point really, really well.

I'm a little confused. My point was that a mediocre Class A team will always have a higher CPA than a mediocre Class C or D team, and so if the at-large berths are filled solely by picking the teams with the highest CPA, that'll be almost all Class A schools, which... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (applefan84) http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/sreply/24942 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 12:45:39 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Just thinking, should a conference championship = an automatic playoff berth? ]]> http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/reply/24941/t/Just-thinking---conference-championship--automatic-playoff-b.html#reply-24941 feeds@yuku.com (Mr NCAA) http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/sreply/24941 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 12:41:55 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Just thinking, should a conference championship = an automatic playoff berth? ]]> http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/reply/24940/t/Just-thinking---conference-championship--automatic-playoff-b.html#reply-24940
Check the GD board. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Searn) http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/sreply/24940 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 12:40:33 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Just thinking, should a conference championship = an automatic playoff berth? ]]> http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/reply/24904/t/Just-thinking---conference-championship--automatic-playoff-b.html#reply-24904 Mr NCAA wrote:

CPA=Playoff points? If so, I would oppose this because it is going to disfavor small schools over larger ones (and the MHSAA has to serve its entire constituency). There is no particular reason to say that a 5-win Class A school should get in ahead of a 5-win Class D school (or, even worse, a 3 or 4-win Class A school over a 5-win class D school) simply because the Class A school gets 80... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (applefan84) http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/sreply/24904 Sat, 04 Oct 2008 23:07:40 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Just thinking, should a conference championship = an automatic playoff berth? ]]> http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/reply/24903/t/Just-thinking---conference-championship--automatic-playoff-b.html#reply-24903 aowwt wrote:
actually the mhsfca has looked into this for several years. They found no significant change in millage from seeded districts to seeded regions. They were able to get the mhsaa to go to no location seeded districts. What was happening before two years ago was UP schools would be forced to play a #1 vs #2 game in the first wk of the playoffs because the schools were over 300 miles or so apart. Thats no longer an... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (applefan84) http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/sreply/24903 Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:52:50 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Just thinking, should a conference championship = an automatic playoff berth? ]]> http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/reply/24900/t/Just-thinking---conference-championship--automatic-playoff-b.html#reply-24900 CPA=Playoff points? If so, I would oppose this because it is going to disfavor small schools over larger ones (and the MHSAA has to serve its entire constituency). There is no particular reason to say that a 5-win Class A school should get in ahead of a 5-win Class D school (or, even worse, a 3 or 4-win Class A school over a 5-win class D school) simply because the Class A school gets 80 points for its wins. I know it's averaged out and whatnot, but generally... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Mr NCAA) http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/sreply/24900 Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:26:20 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Just thinking, should a conference championship = an automatic playoff berth? ]]> http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/reply/24899/t/Just-thinking---conference-championship--automatic-playoff-b.html#reply-24899 feeds@yuku.com (aowwt) http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/sreply/24899 Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:15:39 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Just thinking, should a conference championship = an automatic playoff berth? ]]> http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/reply/24898/t/Just-thinking---conference-championship--automatic-playoff-b.html#reply-24898 ]]> feeds@yuku.com (ColonelKVC) http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/sreply/24898 Sat, 04 Oct 2008 21:39:26 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Just thinking, should a conference championship = an automatic playoff berth? ]]> http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/reply/24897/t/Just-thinking---conference-championship--automatic-playoff-b.html#reply-24897 ColonelKVC wrote:

BiasedGuy wrote:
Leave it the way it is. The MHSAA just needs to rethink some of their playoff pairings/regions/distircts
Agree. Go to regions with 8 seeds instead of districts with 4 seeds--this will help avoid some re-matches.

The significant problem with regions of 8 seeds is the unbelievable... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (applefan84) http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/sreply/24897 Sat, 04 Oct 2008 21:14:00 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Just thinking, should a conference championship = an automatic playoff berth? ]]> http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/reply/24895/t/Just-thinking---conference-championship--automatic-playoff-b.html#reply-24895 Mr NCAA wrote:

Searn is right. This scenario actually happened to a 4 - 5 Class D team that had a higher CPA than the 5 - 4 team that qualified for the playoffs. So go figure that one out. I'm for the highest CPA getting the at large berths, but the MHSAA hasn't seen the wisdom in that yet.

CPA=Playoff points? If so, I would oppose this because it is going to disfavor small schools over larger ones... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (applefan84) http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/sreply/24895 Sat, 04 Oct 2008 20:57:07 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Just thinking, should a conference championship = an automatic playoff berth? ]]> http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/reply/24859/t/Just-thinking---conference-championship--automatic-playoff-b.html#reply-24859 BiasedGuy wrote:

Leave it the way it is. The MHSAA just needs to rethink some of their playoff pairings/regions/distircts Agree. Go to regions with 8 seeds instead of districts with 4 seeds--this will help avoid some re-matches.

]]> feeds@yuku.com (ColonelKVC) http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/sreply/24859 Sat, 04 Oct 2008 09:53:11 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Just thinking, should a conference championship = an automatic playoff berth? ]]> http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/reply/24858/t/Just-thinking---conference-championship--automatic-playoff-b.html#reply-24858
GO EK!! ]]> feeds@yuku.com (EKDAD) http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/sreply/24858 Sat, 04 Oct 2008 09:47:13 GMT <![CDATA[ Just thinking, should a conference championship = an automatic playoff berth? ]]> http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/topic/5656/t/Just-thinking---conference-championship--automatic-playoff-b.html
Davison could finish as the Big 9 Conference Champions this year and not make the state playoffs.

They now sit at 2-3 (2-0 in the big 9)

In my opinion they should beat Flint Powers and Flint Carman-Ainsworth to finish a sweep of the Big 9 (4-0)

Unfortunately those could end up their only 4 wins.... as they finish the season with two tough game against Orchard Lake St. Mary and Holt. At this point I would pick... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Searn) http://searnfootballforum.yuku.com/topic/5656 Fri, 03 Oct 2008 00:54:31 GMT